Same for us with MSP VA.

Mary Hanson | Billing Specialist | River Valley Home Care Inc.

916 8th Street Farmington, MN 55024

Phone: 651-460-4201 Fax: 651-460-4208

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Marnie Pogreba
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 12:09 PM
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Hello Sheila,

Yes, at least for the St Could VA. Sometimes the St Cloud VA will make the first referral a Bundled one, even if it is

for SN only. When it comes time to renew, most likely your next authorization will be Non-Bundled for the patient.

Marnie Pogreba

Home Care and Hospice

OFFICE: 218 894 8324

Fax: 218 894 8099

LAKEWOOD HEALTH SYSTEM

49725 County 83| Staples, MN 56479

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Sheila Kientop
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**External Sender**

I just got an authorization that is labeled as bundled but the only service is nurse no therapies. Would you still bill it as bundled?

Sheila Kientop

Fiscal Officer

320-679-6332

320-679-6333 fax

Kanabec County Community Health

905 Forest Ave. E., Suite 127, Mora, MN 55051

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From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Laurie Saehr
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Marnie,

I can’t believe I was not ever taught this. The nurse that took the referral always entered in the auths. I never knew that there was a different way to bill. My question is do you think that I can go back and cancel the claim and send it like a PDGM? Also are you related to a Tony Pogreba?

Thanks

laurie

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Bundled is kind of like the VA’s version of a Medicare episode. The patient does not need to meet Medicare criteria, but you will bill the claim just like Medicare, using PDGM billing. The VA generally uses Bundled authorizations when Therapy is ordered.

Non-Bundled is billed per visit and not like Medicare. It would be billed like your commercial claims. However, the billing codes will be G codes.

On page two of the authorization it will tell you if the authorization is Bundled or Non-Bundled.

I hope this helps.

Marnie Pogreba

Home Care and Hospice

OFFICE: 218 894 8324

Fax: 218 894 8099

LAKEWOOD HEALTH SYSTEM

49725 County 83| Staples, MN 56479

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Laurie Saehr
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 3:23 PM
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**External Sender**

Can someone explain to me exactly what bundled and non-bundled means and how are they billed differently.

Thank you

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Laurie Saehr

Horizon Health

Billing Specialist

Partners Senior Living Options

PO Box 319

Royalton MN 56373

(P) 320-302-0192

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