That’s how we are billing as well, Marnie, but in the beginning of the year, we didn’t know this plan was requiring HIPPS, so essentially claims went out fee for service. When the claims starting denying, initially they just said we needed the Occ code 50, so we’d resubmit with Occ code 50, then the claim would deny for no Rev code 0023. So they’re essentially saying we need to be billing PDGM for the Adv Solution Plan, but neglected to properly address this, or prepare for the processing of these claims themselves.  Their billing system wasn’t set up appropriately for PDGM, and beginning of October, they must have had a system update which generated an update from CMS regarding PDGM, so the only then realized that is how this plan should have been billed since Jan 1 2021.  Well since we didn’t have our payor set up that way, our claims did not generate a HIPPS code from Jan 1- approximately April, so we had to manually add a line for Rev code 0023 to existing claims.  Those claims then finally paid once we added the line with Rev code 0023, but now those claims are being taken back because there is no HIPPS code along with the Rev code 0023.  We have not had any take backs on claims that were billed completely under the PDGM model, starting around April-May.

 

It has been a complete nightmare to say the least, and only with the Adv Solution Plan.

 

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Marnie Pogreba
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:07 PM
To: billers@list.mnhomecare.org
Subject: RE: EXTERNALMedica Adv Solution plan

 

We bill per visit too, but they have wanted us to put the HIPPS code on the claim, even though they do not pay by the HIPPS code.  Now, I am a little worried about take backs. 

 

Marnie

Lakewood Health System Home Care & Hospice

218 894 8324

 

 

 

 

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org> On Behalf Of Karen Gorecki
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:22 AM
To: billers@list.mnhomecare.org
Subject: RE: EXTERNALMedica Adv Solution plan

 

**External Sender**

 

Did you bill per visit or per episode?

 

We are billing per visit. First in 2021 paid correctly. Now last few ones have paid less saying we are not in network but we are in network. Say it is a recertification issue that we haven’t been able to figure out yet.

 

Karen

 

From: billers@list.mnhomecare.org <billers@list.mnhomecare.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:18 AM
To: billers@list.mnhomecare.org
Subject: EXTERNALMedica Adv Solution plan

 

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Good morning-

 

Is anyone getting take backs from Medica on the Adv Solution Plan (MEDM1)??  And what are you doing to resolve this??  After almost an entire year fighting with Medica on how they want us to bill this plan, now they are taking back payments because there were no RAPS!!!  And they JUST FINALLY started paying the claims in about June, and now they are taking everything back.  First, they denied because they wanted the Occ code 50.  Then they denied for no REV Code 0023.  Now they’re taking back all payments, and denying all new claims with no RAP.  I’m at a loss with them!

 

Feedback appreciated!

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

Be Compassionate. Be Accountable. Be Respectful. Be Excellent!

 

Jessica DeMarais

Claims Specialist

Guardian Angels Elim Home Care and Hospice

403 Main Street, Elk River, MN 55330

Direct 763-452-4163

Main 763-241-0654

Fax 763-241-0274

Email jdemarais@gaehc.org

www.gaehomecarehospice.org

Guardian Angels † Elim Home Care & Hospice is jointly owned by Guardian Angels Senior Services and Cassia, an Augustana/Elim affiliation.

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